Advance Debt on LES?

MGMama · 01-26-2011, 05:12 AM

I have googled the crud out of this and can't seem to find an answer.

DH's LES for Jan shows Advance Debt in the Entitlement section, and an extra 2655.82 being paid to him. There are no extra deductions taken, and the code matches the BAH change code (024). Then down at the bottom where all the typing and explanations are, it says Indebtedness Due Us: 2655.82......well DUH...cause you just paid it to us and you weren't supposed to.

First off- why did they give us extra money that we didn't want, that we now owe them?? He didn't ask for any advances. Well, technically they haven't given it to us yet, because it says it will be at the EOM pay....but it's too late for them to change it. We know that money isn't ours, we didn't ask for it, and they'll be taking it back next month.....but still- WTF? It's not our old BAH, our new OHA amount, or the difference between the two- it's not a recognizable number. Makes. No. Sense. DH called finance today and got no answer (there's an exercise right now) so he's going to try again tomorrow right before he leaves for a 3 week long TDY.

pilesoflaundry · 01-26-2011, 06:28 AM

Is he certain he didn't get any advance for the TDY?

Is there any advances or over payments in the last 2 or 3 months? Could it be finally catching up?

I would leave it in your account because it will all come out at once later if it's a screw up.

SillyJester · 01-26-2011, 06:57 AM

Yea, that can be a number of things. He's going to have to talk to finance about what it is and get it explained.

ElisMum23 · 01-26-2011, 08:53 AM

Im betting its an advance for TDY. This just happened to us. My DH didnt request an advance but they apparently gave it to him anyway. I decided to move the money into savings just to make sure it stays away from money we spend in case we need to pay some of it back

MrsFlyboy · 01-26-2011, 09:29 AM

The Air Force is notorious for over paying the member during a PCS, for whatever reason. It could be that and they're just now catching it.

Hard to say. The AF has never advanced my husband money on a TDY, whether he asked for it or not. $2600 is a LOT of money to advance a member for a 3 week long TDY so I don't think that's it but

Samantha H · 01-26-2011, 09:40 AM

When we first PCS'd here we had that same thing and it was our BAH from our old base.

**Judith** · 01-26-2011, 10:35 AM

Has he been deployed? Could it be money borrowed from then?

MGMama · 01-26-2011, 04:50 PM

He hasn't been deployed in over a year, and he says they never give him money before a TDY....I think it is most likely related to our change over from BAH to OHA. We certainly aren't going to spend it- it's just going to sit in our account, sine his check next month likely will be missing that amount!!

Kate Kashman · 01-27-2011, 12:21 AM

Did you just move overseas? There are two forms of advance debt that can come with the process of obtaining housing overseas.

It sounds like you might have done the type that pays for part of your security deposit. When you signed your lease, you had to provide the first month's rent and also a security deposit. You had the option of taking the security deposit as an advance, but it doesn't have to be repaid until you move out. You then repay it with your returned security deposit. It just sits on the books as a debt the entire time. I think it is as easy as checking a block on the form.

Also, when moving into overseas housing, there is also the option to take a certain amount (I think it is one month's OHA but I'm not positive) as a regular advance.

It might possibly be one of these things, and either you don't remember requesting it, or someone requested it for you (wouldn't that be irritating?)

Hope you figure it out!

01-26-2011, 05:12 AM	#1
MGMama Annyeong Haseyo Ya'll! I'm a posting machine! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ramstein AB, Germany Posts: 1,637 My Mood:	Advance Debt on LES? I have googled the crud out of this and can't seem to find an answer. DH's LES for Jan shows Advance Debt in the Entitlement section, and an extra 2655.82 being paid to him. There are no extra deductions taken, and the code matches the BAH change code (024). Then down at the bottom where all the typing and explanations are, it says Indebtedness Due Us: 2655.82......well DUH...cause you just paid it to us and you weren't supposed to. First off- why did they give us extra money that we didn't want, that we now owe them?? He didn't ask for any advances. Well, technically they haven't given it to us yet, because it says it will be at the EOM pay....but it's too late for them to change it. We know that money isn't ours, we didn't ask for it, and they'll be taking it back next month.....but still- WTF? It's not our old BAH, our new OHA amount, or the difference between the two- it's not a recognizable number. Makes. No. Sense. DH called finance today and got no answer (there's an exercise right now) so he's going to try again tomorrow right before he leaves for a 3 week long TDY. __________________ ~Mary~ Mama to Maddox, Maverick, and AF wife to Marshall. U of Michigan Grad- GO BLUE!

01-26-2011, 06:28 AM	#2
pilesoflaundry Senior Member You can't touch this! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: El Paso Posts: 13,192	Re: Advance Debt on LES? Is he certain he didn't get any advance for the TDY? Is there any advances or over payments in the last 2 or 3 months? Could it be finally catching up? I would leave it in your account because it will all come out at once later if it's a screw up. __________________ -Jackie One of the secrets of life is that all that is really worth the doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carroll

01-26-2011, 06:57 AM	#3
SillyJester Senior Member You can't touch this! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,559	Re: Advance Debt on LES? Yea, that can be a number of things. He's going to have to talk to finance about what it is and get it explained. __________________

01-26-2011, 08:53 AM	#4
ElisMum23 Senior Member You can't touch this! Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,444 My Mood:	Re: Advance Debt on LES? Im betting its an advance for TDY. This just happened to us. My DH didnt request an advance but they apparently gave it to him anyway. I decided to move the money into savings just to make sure it stays away from money we spend in case we need to pay some of it back __________________ "For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." Jeremiah 29:11

01-26-2011, 09:29 AM	#5
MrsFlyboy Waiting.... You can't touch this! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Aviano AB, Italy Posts: 20,645 My Mood:	Re: Advance Debt on LES? The Air Force is notorious for over paying the member during a PCS, for whatever reason. It could be that and they're just now catching it. Hard to say. The AF has never advanced my husband money on a TDY, whether he asked for it or not. $2600 is a LOT of money to advance a member for a 3 week long TDY so I don't think that's it but __________________ *Carol* COME AND GET FIT WITH ME! I am an Independent Team Beachbody Coach because I've personally used and seen great results with Beachbody products. "Judging a person does not define who they are, it defines who you are."~Unknown

01-26-2011, 09:40 AM	#6
Samantha H Senior Member I'm a posting machine! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Volkel, Netherlands Posts: 1,540 My Mood:	Re: Advance Debt on LES? When we first PCS'd here we had that same thing and it was our BAH from our old base. __________________

01-26-2011, 10:35 AM	#7
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01-26-2011, 04:50 PM	#8
MGMama Annyeong Haseyo Ya'll! I'm a posting machine! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ramstein AB, Germany Posts: 1,637 My Mood:	Re: Advance Debt on LES? He hasn't been deployed in over a year, and he says they never give him money before a TDY....I think it is most likely related to our change over from BAH to OHA. We certainly aren't going to spend it- it's just going to sit in our account, sine his check next month likely will be missing that amount!! __________________ ~Mary~ Mama to Maddox, Maverick, and AF wife to Marshall. U of Michigan Grad- GO BLUE!

01-27-2011, 12:21 AM	#9
Kate Kashman Member Getting warmer Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 87 My Mood:	Re: Advance Debt on LES? Did you just move overseas? There are two forms of advance debt that can come with the process of obtaining housing overseas. It sounds like you might have done the type that pays for part of your security deposit. When you signed your lease, you had to provide the first month's rent and also a security deposit. You had the option of taking the security deposit as an advance, but it doesn't have to be repaid until you move out. You then repay it with your returned security deposit. It just sits on the books as a debt the entire time. I think it is as easy as checking a block on the form. Also, when moving into overseas housing, there is also the option to take a certain amount (I think it is one month's OHA but I'm not positive) as a regular advance. It might possibly be one of these things, and either you don't remember requesting it, or someone requested it for you (wouldn't that be irritating?) Hope you figure it out!