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Old 02-26-2010, 12:56 PM   #1
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Can't believe it. CANNOT believe it!!

DH got an email today, saying he has orders to Osan, Korea....Report no later than.....10 AUG....a week BEFORE MY DUE DATE!!

Please, dear military wives.....please give me some hope. Please give me some advice. Please tell me that there is any way, some sort of chance that we can get his report date moved back a month or two!! His supervisor is out of the office until next week, and his shirt is deployed.

We would actually LOVE to get it changed to a 2 or 3 year tour and get it accompanied, our plan was that if he got unaccompanied orders we would just go Non-command sponsored and live off base. We just went through a 7 month deployment last year, and I really do NOT want to do a year apart when we could be together. Especially the first year of his child's life. UGH. His very first assignment was a remote to Korea 4 years ago, and I didn't go because I was in grad school. I visited him there, and wouldn't mind living there- it would be a great adventure.

My worries (I have a million)
-how likely is it to get a command sponsorship as an E-5?
-how does that even happen? Who does he ask? Forms to fill out?
-if we go NCS where would my child see the doctor if she is sick?
-He's working on finishing his degree through St. Leo University, can he still do that there?

I am about 10 seconds away from crying my eyes out.

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i have no answers either maybe he can talk to his commander?? do it a little before or a little after? im sorry. stay strong something will work out =]
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i know that they will either push it up or possibly delay it (depending on the command) because of your due date.... we got command sponsorship to japan when my hubs was an e4 (i believe that is the lowest rank that normally gets command sponsorship overseas) and it was me, makenna and michi. michi was just shy of three months when we moved over there. i am not sure who he would speak to about all of your questions about his schooling, the medical, etc... but i would definitely have him talk to someone at his current command and they should be able to point him in the right direction... i will also ask jonathan if he happens to know... it was a bit different for him because his whole ship went over. try and stay calm, it will all work out
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He's A SSGT - so if he got a long tour to Korea he can have dependents with him. As far as I'm understanding he got the short tour with follow on. There is a option they ask them to sign upon arrival if they wan to extend for another year, but still unaccompanied for some extra cash. I'm not quite sure if he can change his orders to long tour - it doesn't sound realistic.
But what he can request is the have his report date postponed till the baby is born and then you can fly on your own and be with him for a year and live off base. You don't want to be stuck longer than that there, because you like it now, but would you like it for 4 years??? Just make sure he has a good follow on you can both focus on while there!
Many people dream about Osan and Kadena as a way to get out of their current base and have better chance after the tour, so congratulations and I hope all will work out for your family
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Oh, I forgot if he is doing online degree he can continue that in Korea - I know many guys who have done it.
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My husband is just finishing up his unaccompanied tour at Osan. They are really trying to normalize tours in Korea so it surprises me that they cut your dh unaccompanied orders. I do not know how you go about requesting accompanied orders but I will ask my husband if he knows when I talk to him later on, okay?

My husband's squadron commander did not allow any of them to live off-base so before you go over non-command sponsored, be sure that's not the case with your husband's squadron. I think my husband's was the only one though.
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Old 02-26-2010, 04:53 PM   #11
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Here's some info on command sponsorship at Osan, including a number at AFPC that your husband can call:

http://www.osan.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123166549

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Have you been selected for an unaccompanied assignment to Osan, but want to bring your family? There is currently a waiting list for personnel requesting a Command Sponsored billet. Please email 51fss.fsmpmforvemana@osan.af.mil to find out how to get added to the waiting list. Concurrent travel is not automatic at Osan!

A concurrent travel waiver is required for dependents to PCS at the same time as their sponsor.

See the link below to view the current CSP waiting list.

Current CSP Waiting List (As of Feb. 19, 2010)

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http://www.osan.af.mil/library/facts...et.asp?id=6995

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Oh honey I am SO SORRY!!! DH got PCS orders and had him reporting to Hawaii (accompanied tho) on May 1 and I was due May 21 with our first child. We were able to get his orders ammended so that he didn't have to report until June 21. Go right now to his higher ups and request an ammendment. I really hope they'll work with you guys on this. Especially since it's THAT clsoe to the due date!
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Wow. I would think for sure they could get the dates moved around since its so close to your due date. I wouldn't think that would be a problem. As for everything else I have no info or advise but I wish you all the luck. Im so sorry! I hope it can all get worked out..
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My husband just told me that there's a form on vMPF that your husband can request a later RNLTD and when he gets his RIP, there should be a place on it to request accompanied orders. But he can also go see Outbound Assignments too.

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Sorry Mary...I would be upset too. I have no good advise, but if I can do anything for you, let me know. Even if you just want to go have a cup of coffee or if you want some time to yourself, I can watch Maddox. Just let me know.
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Someone correct me if I am wrong on this, but I don't even know that it would be possible for you to go over and try to live off-base if this is an unaccompanied assignment. A SOFA stamp in your passport is what would allow you to live in the country (SOFA - status of forces agreement) if you were on your husband's orders. But, without that SOFA stamp, I don't think you could be in the country for more than...um, 30 days? (Each country is different, and I'm in Japan, so it might be something else for Korea.) Yeah, see if you can't get on that waiting list that MrsFlyboy mentioned. And
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I replied to your PM.

psycheab, NCS families can easily get the appropriate visa and SOFA stamp in the ROK. They also get the same OHA and most of the same benefits as CS families. The big differences are: NCS are lowest priority for the DODEA schools and parents are encouraged to either plan ahead to home school or to pay out of pocket for tuition to one of the international schools. The other huge difference is that they are on Tricare Standard and are only seen in the base clinic as space is available (generally they call for appointments at 10AM and get cancellation spots). They do have full access to the ER and English speaking doctors can be found off base.

Also, the MM of the NCS family has to request permission to live off base (and it is looked at differently than an unaccompanied MM who just wants out of the dorms). The general consensus is that it is usually given as long as the person isn't a problem.
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